So, on page 6, I thought I'd say a few words. I promote almost everyone, and like freeones, we've noticed an alarming number of non-payments, or "payments you have to ask for" in my day. Here are some take aways I think are fair.
Derek- Handled his tone nicely
- Spent too much time making fun of his affiliate for losing ICQ password, or correcting his tone
- Seems out of touch with what's happening in his office
Smutnut- Childish
- Rude
- Aggressive
- Legitimately owed money
- Legitimately owed interest
- Legitimately owed for his time having to "follow up" on payments tht should be automatic
So, I won't say that I fully support how SmutNut "handled the situation".
But I will say that Derek's job is "handling situations" professionally, and SmutNut's job is to send joins. How he behaves on ICQ is totally irrelevant to the core of his argument.
Now, what do I as an affiliate take away from this thread, fair, or unfair, here's how we play it.
What this thread accomplishes- I'm aware that Teen Revenue makes "mistakes" with their payments
- I find it hard to believe their entire company hinges on one check signer
- If all TeenRevenue's "excuses" are honest answers, then their company is clearly somewhat disorganized.
- I consider the stability of the company and the likelihood of recieving payment as factors before I change promotional strategy on the website.
- I am less convinced that Teen Revenue pays all their owed monies.
- I am now less likely to aggressively promote Teen Revenue than before.
- I now anticipate mistakes may take more than 3 weeks to correct.
What this thread DOES NOT accomplish- Convince me Teen Revenue is trying to screw people
- Convince me that SmutNut is a professional himself.
But I do believe that the list of goals that SmutNut had when he started the thread have been mostly accomplished at considerable expense to his public reputation.
But let's not forget, Teen Revenue should be paying the guy. It's a tough economy, and it's hard enough to make it when you are being paid what you earned, not being paid the money you do earn can sometimes push anyone over an emotional edge. It's not Derek's place to criticize his affiliate's tone, nor password losing, nor to push for more links until the debts are paid and checks cashed.
This is GFY, and when it comes down to it all of our business relationships get thin fast when people stop paying their debts. So, yea, "fuck you. pay me."
Now I have to go audit our TeenRevenue payments, and that's an expense of doing business with that affiliate program I guess, since I can't assume that payments will just "be there" because they are supposed to be. Even if they are "mistakes," having to double check your work is hassle bullshit I don't need.
SmutNut, this happens everyday, to tons of people. Bring it to our attention, but the more you stick to the facts, the more support you will get for your issue.