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This discussion doesn't matter most people are below animals in their thinking. People want to follow nature in a dog eat dog world where death and fear rules the mindset. Following nature or lets say "the ego" is below all animals. You have a great brain but you're not using it to evolve. You just want misery, pain, death, destruction and discrimination. Humans are the least intelligent animal on earth. People are actually arguing for death, famine, war, fear, stupidity, selfishness, greed and misery. Human beings haven't evolved one bit.
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