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Old 04-09-2012, 08:26 AM  
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo View Post
EXACTLY!! "The State" is the only entity that can legally use force to make people bend to it's decisions. That's not capitalism. Capitalism is a free market where the owner of the company trades currency for labor, and the workers trade labor for currency. If either does not wish to voluntarily enter into the transaction, they are free to not do so. When "The State" gets involved, this free and voluntary interaction between people disappears.

There is no capitalism or "free market" without the state. The state is there to protect the capitalist against the majority of the population who will form Trade Unions and freely demand ownership of what they create. The Capitalist State restricts Trade Unions, makes laws against them, makes sure the Capitalists win strikes, keeps unemployment high to lower wages, forces people to work on the threat of losing benefits.

Yes the starving worker is as "free" to enter into the transaction as the rich capitalist, if he is prepared to starve to death to prove a point.
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