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Originally Posted by inthecrack
Why does the fact that humans cannot explain everything about the universe and our existence have to mean by default that god did it? Why is a simple "we don't know yet" not sufficient? We once thought the earth was flat. Ancient Aztecs worshiped the sun and sacrificed thousands to appease it. Science eventually busted these myths and more will fall in the future. Sooner or later science will explain a lot about our existence. Saying that god is the only answer to the mysteries of the universe is a total cop out. You're taking the easy way out because you are too impatient for the real answers to come by way of science.
If you are going to explain the universe and our existence with the god theory then you have to explain who or what created god. You are explaining what seems to you to be incredible with something that is even more incredible. It's an argument of infinite regress.
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God, here, is defined as an "intelligent First Source." This isn't voodoo. My assertion is that non-life can't come from life, and the complexity of the universe, and our planet and the life therein, cannot have come into existence without intelligence being involved.
As for explaining God, we cannot possibly hope to explain the origins of God when we can't explain our own, can we? I seriously doubt our human minds could possible comprehend the information on God's origins.
Brian Leftow, Nolloth Professor at Oxford University, pointed out that the idea of God existing outside of space and time is consistent with the theory of special relativity. "There are a lot of different arguments you might give to try and show that God is outside of time. One that impresses me somewhat is simply that if you take special relativity very seriously, you believe that everything that is in time is also in space. Its just a four-dimensional continuum. No theist has ever thought God was literally there in space. If he's not in space and whatever is in time is in space, then he is not in time. The question then becomes: what sense can you make out of there being a personlike being outside of time? Well, obviously, a lot of personal predicates won't apply. He can't forget. You can only forget what's in your past. He can't cease to do something. You can only cease to do something that's over in your past... If God is timeless, then everything he does, he does, so to speak, all at once, in a single act. He couldn't do one thing first and then another later on. But that act might have effects at different times."
That quote goes on and on, and is fascinating. Most here on GFY probably don't have the mental capacity to understand what is being said, so I'll use a far more basic example:
Let's assume the characters inside of a book are actually alive. They live their lives from page to page, from the start of the book until the end of it. They can't go back, only forward. But the author of the book, which exists outside of the book, can turn to the first page, last page, or any page in between. The characters in the book can't possibly understand the author, but the author understands the characters completely, having created them.
The author exists outside the book, the same way that God exists outside the space and time of our universe, which He created.