Originally Posted by Donny

Johnny, you keep talking about aliens. I'm talking about something that is above that. I'm discussing a creative force that, if other life (alien) exists, would have created that as well. We're not speaking of a specific religion, so your claims of mind control don't belong in this discussion. We are discussing an intelligent First Cause. Do you even know what that means? The aliens you keep talking about exist inside this universe. I'm speaking of an intelligence outside this universe. You've started your own thread about alien life. That's the proper place to discuss what you're trying to discuss. Here, is not. And that's why I've been ignoring your posts... because they are off topic.