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Originally Posted by RebelR
The only problem is that if you eliminate tipping, you remove the control of the restaurant patron. The restaurant pays the server more, which raises the price of the food you are paying for, and now an extra 17% is now on your bill, which you have no choice but to pay.
I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you.
As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school.
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On 'removing the control of the patron' - Really? You mean like every other industry where the feedback loop is - customer votes with their wallet - ownership either reacts to produce better product or doesn't and eventually goes out of business/languishes.
+17% =/= an increase to a reasonable minimum wage, or whatever the market would require for people to do the job without tips.
Bullshit about "outside of the servers control" kind of invalidates anything else you said as you obviously have a point of view that's closed. Why the fuck should I care about figuring out if something is outside of the servers control or not? I'm paying the fucking restaurant and the server and trying to figure out if something is the busboys fault or the chef's fault or the managers fault or the servers fault is just bullshit predicated upon justifications based on servers wanting to be tipped.
If I go to best buy and buy a TV , but its actually not a very good TV it turns out, should I return the TV but still take a portion of that return money and give it directly to the salesman? I mean, he didn't make the TV right?
I had lots of shit jobs over my life, and some of them were enjoyable even, but lets face it - shit jobs should pay shit. Waiting and tips doesn't make any sense and the sooner everyone figures that out the better.