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Old 05-05-2012, 10:03 AM  
raymor
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Originally Posted by Donny View Post

Now I kinda feel like he hates our country and would love to sabotage it.

Am I the only one who feels this way?
I think if you said the same thing in different words he would agree. His slogan was "hope and CHANGE", he was always talking about "remaking America". You don't remake something if you think it's great the way it is. Conservatives, on the other hand will talk about PRESERVING our freedoms, renewing our greatness.

This, I think, is the basic difference between conservatives and progressives. Progressives look at what's wrong and try to improve things. Witness their attempt to completely replace the entire healthcare system with a proposal that was not only untested, but unread. They were pushing to throw out everything they could about the current system, replacing it with a bill THEY HADN'T EVEN READ. Apparently they thought ANYTHING must be better than the American system.

Conservatives see that improvements need to be made, but say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water". Conservatives look at what made this country great, quoting Lincoln and Jefferson. Liberals are more inserted in new ideas being tasted in Europe. As Obama's spiritual advisor said, "Not God bless America, God DAMN America!"

Both points of view are valuable. Remodeling is good sometimes. When you remodel, it's best to save the best stuff, not bulldoze the whole building and everything in it.

"God damn America!" "It's time to remake America" - yeah he kind of does hate it, so he wants to fix it by turning it into France.

Last edited by raymor; 05-05-2012 at 10:14 AM..
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