raymor

Even if that were true, it would be completely beside the point. The point the OP brought up and I responded to is that Obama and friends "hate America", which is true in the same way that conservatives are "obstructionist."

On policy, read possibly the most influential conservative work on healthcare, "Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". The republicans did spend several years discussing alternatives to Hillarycare. Contrast several years of discussing proposals versus liberals who bent the rules to avoid posting their bill for the required 48 HOURS. One viewpoint is let's discuss and find the best options. The other us "change the system, change it now, change everything, and later we can find out what we changed". Or, as Speaker Pelosi pit it it, "we have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it". That's the point - the Obama / Pelosi perspective is that the country sucks, so let's change everything, no need to even read the bill because they dislike the existing American way enough. The charge against conservatives is that they are "obstructionist" - they don't want to change anything until there's a ) a good reason b) a better alternative and c) plenty of discussion to find the best options.

As a said, both perspectives are valuable and mixing them together you get "make changes, after checking that the changes will be IMPROVEMENTS, not just change for the sake of change."