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Old 05-17-2012, 11:42 AM  
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A Question for Paul Markham, serious question about everything going to hell! +my rant

Dear Paul,

In regards to selling content (from a selling point) are people willing to license content from you harder and harder to come by? Those that do are probably much less willing to pay any kind of substantial value. Are people trying to lowball you even with your bargain blowout price? Alot?

Anymore girl is very luck to break 3 digits ($1000+) for scenes now (I'm talking most boy/girl not big features or sites). I know from experience and from what others have told me.

I ask this because over the years I've had several interested parties in the Johnny Load content for licensing and now people only want to pay small pennies for what they originally offered, if that.

The entire scheme now seems:
1. Build a tube (or tons of them) as with MechBunny or tubeace you get unlimited domains
2. Download a bunch of movies (pirated often) from a porn filehost site because you can't afford to license content.
3. Stay within guidelines of DMCA by making all the uploads look like user submitted uploads that way you can have full length. If there is a complaint then take it down(or temporarily take it down for a couple days then reappears). Hell get a host in the Netherlands and make sure to obfuscate yourself or get a partner in one of those countries.
4. Sell penis enhancement pills to really gullible people along with cams. Make some money
off of ever decreasing banner ads or traffic trades.
5. Make a small profit if you don't get sued or go to jail first.
6. Adhere to this philosophy of doing whatever it takes to leapfrog the next guy.

Then there are sites like pornrip.org that probably have a guy who has a program that slowly rips a site (or network of sites) and puts it on a remote server. The guy is then able to use those files and upload them from his server directly to filehosts. Using a separate server with high upload throughput allows files to be uploaded in record time to these sites.
There was a thread about that site but it seems to be forgotten. There's good money if you can rip and post in the quantity that is done on that site.
Why get a membership to one site when you can just get jdownloader put in thousands of links from all kinds of filehosts and queue up files literally in the TBs, walk away (especially if your hard drive is 2 TBs) and let it sit for 1-2 weeks. The program does all the unraring for you and unzipping. When you come back all these videos of all kinds (or whatever you downloaded are ready to play or view).
What several producers spent a decade to produce you easily harnessed in a weekend or two.

With the above trends, why pay much of anything beyond the cost of bandwidth for content. There are some other things about bandwidth prices putting money into someones pocket, but I won't say that here as it might get me banned. Because it'll be pointing at that elephant in the room that just stomps out small flames.

I once talked to a gentlemen who was vehemently against copyright, would even rage.
A story he told though, this same guy (he has legal expertise) helped some guys sell a tubesite for a lot of money (7 figures, this was around the advent of tubesites). They started out with all kinds of stolen content and because of all the stolen free videos people liked to watch and visit the site. When they got enough traffic the ads and affiliates (which need a shit load of traffic because conversions are so fucking low for tubes free content but who cares as long as your making money and there is always someone willing to click, new people come online everyday). When they got enough money they started to license content from producers and began using that on the site. They started getting inquiries and finally sold the site for the said number of 7-figures for it's traffic value.
The point of this story is "who gives a fuck if there's money in the end, right!"
Who cares what consumer you shape for future pornographers out there.

With all the bots scrapping the chans (such as 4chans) and putting them on a remote server that's encrypted and has some guy scouting through it looking for the hottest newest pics and with the new ex gf craze you don't need to produce content anymore.

The smart people are the ones that follow the trends or money (ones aside from the affiliates and producers).
People like raymor that built all his *box site modules (all protecting against abuse).
People like Konrad that built robust tubesite software like mechbunny that people flock to.
People like CyberSEO (a copy I own) who's product with splogging makes the problem that much worse.

The guys above are just smart, I wouldn't dare call them opportunists, they built tools that are the trend of today. The trends that are taking place are inevitable (period) Ex gf content as teens were able to get their hands on smartphones and start sending nudies to their sweetheart (and the people who would use them for financial gain) to bandwidth excess and countries with lax laws for filehosts. All this caused Inevitable from technology.

A program owner I know that shot a lot of content for Peter North and did a lot of other work (he's been in the biz since the late 80's) has shot a site that's been up for almost 2 years now and he's just breaking even, he makes a little back from handjob scenes he does with the same model on himself. Many are just in it still for the love of the girls and because they have other streams of income. Granted this guys marketing skills aren't very good and he has trouble trusting certain people but from living with him for a week and talking constantly we got to know each other.
Another program owner who talked to me and wanted to license Johnny Load describe his good 'ol days. Granted bandwidth was $10k+ a month back then but sales were $30-40k a month and that was just husband and wife.

People have an obsession with numbers and the tubes and the loyal customer bases are dwindling as more and more realize how easy and cheap vast amounts of content are that is available on the web.
It's become a game of volume, speed, and spam rather than building trust with a consumer.

The way things are going are inevitable, I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. People like Paul can bitch on here because they've made their money.
I'm still young enough and not wrapped up enough to solely pursue online or adult (hard to help though ).

Don't get me wrong, there is still money out there and plenty of money online in general. But current trends have gotten out of hand and there's no way around it. It's at a point that makes it very hard for a newbie to get started.

Paul, you've been around a while so you've seen more trends than most. I'm just wondering if things will fuzzle to the point where it's just big dogs (most parties will be consolidated) and the occasional naive beginner comes in makes a little sparkle then realizes he can make a lot more doing other things.

Here's to a business that acts like it's been going out of business in the next 6 months incessantly
...and to me, a victim of bad timing
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