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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
I feel you man, but what Nathan/Fabian/whatthefuckever is getting at, is once you start "pre-screening" people, you eliminate the safe harbor provisions of DMCA. It's the same for a web hosting company. Once you start going "looking for" offenders, you are basically doing some level of 'moderation' or oversight. This is where you get into trouble. It is typically why these various companies play Schultz from Hogan's Heros.
In short, there is legal landmines that play into this on some degree. Not just the piracy side, and enforcement of that. But switching their tubes from the pure theft they were when they had bought them, to slowly weeding that shit out, and bringing in legal content over time without losing their traffic, or standing in the business model as an example.
Again, I am not excusing them, or saying all of this is right or wrong. I am simply saying, they are now a huge corporate enterprise. Whether we like it or not, they have people to answer too (Playboy, investors, whomever). You are going to see them operate the same as a telco, wall street banks, CCBill, or whatever. Change will come slowly. Often times very very very slowly.
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There is nothing in any law book that says they can't require a real email address. That has nothing to do with DMCA or Safe Harbor.
Facebook made me attach a phone number to my account and verify that account before I could use my account. They sent a SMS with a code that I had to enter into Facebook. Why couldn't that same method be used for other sites that allow user submitted content? At least then you know exactly who loaded it and they can be tracked if need be. But you know what, people wouldn't upload all that stolen content if their real phone number was attached to their account. And asking for it doesn't violate Safe Harbor.
And I don't believe change is coming from them, even if they claim it will come slowly. It is in their benefit to not change and keep doing what they are doing. Their traffic and success of their tube sites 99% depend on piracy via random uploaders.
BF, do you believe Fabian doesn't know what accounts were created by Mansef for inhouse and paid uploaders? Or do you believe he was told to pretend he doesn't know about them by his legal council?