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Old 06-16-2012, 08:02 AM  
Barefootsies
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There is nothing in any law book that says they can't require a real email address. That has nothing to do with DMCA or Safe Harbor.
That alone, an email address, is not the issue. However, the rest of the premise is a slippery slope legally. I think it is a great common sense idea, make no mistake about it. But I also see the flip side of the coin legally, and within the so-called justice system.

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And I don't believe change is coming from them, even if they claim it will come slowly. It is in their benefit to not change and keep doing what they are doing. Their traffic and success of their tube sites 99% depend on piracy via random uploaders.
I believe they are making an honest attempt, that is my personal feeling.

However, I think it is a balancing act. I say this from my own actual experience, and understanding of the market, or the tube site business. Even on small tubes, it is difficult to deal with those just uploading for ego, or whatever. You have people willing to upload large volumes of shit just so they can be the first to post a link on some forum. Not even for money. Just for being "cool".

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BF, do you believe Fabian doesn't know what accounts were created by Mansef for inhouse and paid uploaders? Or do you believe he was told to pretend he doesn't know about them by his legal council?
I think Nathan/Fabian/whatthefuckever is a figurehead of a corporate conglomerate. I believe he has layers that advise him what he can, and cannot say publicly. I think they are probably making some level of a best effort to deal with this issue, but can't openly admit that they are doing any level of oversight that could be used in court.

I see things from a different point of view per se. More so from the ugly side of how corporate America works, from my years before porn. I think that Schultz is really trying to balance out being a good corporate porn citizen, without completely destroying their business model (i.e. losing all of the traffic).

Just like the CCBill threads of the past week, once things are BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION, you may see some results. Same as Schultz has mentioned that when they get DMCA's, they act on them. What I am getting at here is, once something is brought up they deal with it. But they are not going to openly admit they go looking for it, as legally they could be on the hook.

I would say this is probably what his team of lawyers in Vegas have advised him, but that is just my guess. If you have a whole legal team with you at a conference, I would say that they probably have given you some parameters and public 'corporate line', you must operate within.

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