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Old 06-16-2012, 08:34 AM  
Paul Markham
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tony, CCBill stopping billing for file lockers was more complicated than DWB finding some links that he could complain about.

If you really think CCBill let's themselves be bullied by the likes of DWB..... That CCBill stopped billing for them is great, do not get me wrong. It also changed basically nothing though. They will have new billing in place on Monday, and they will continue. Fighting these sites has to be done at their roots, not at the top leafs. Their ability to host needs to be destroyed. Only then will this be in any way successful. Take down Oron, preferably seizing their equipment, and they are dead in the water. All files gone at once. This has to be the goal... Not trying to solve a problem by blackmailing CCBill and in the wake causing huge issues for all of adult by posting child porn links all over fucking GFY...
There are places in the world with hosting companies that won't give a fuck. you need to go through a court to achieve what you suggest.

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SZNY, if I would go around promoting who I give money to for fighting piracy, people like DWB or Mike will start trying to discredit those people because they think they are being bribed or such by Manwin.

So I leave it up to those organizations to do PR on it or not, I am not doing this for the publicity, I'm doing it to make more money by selling our premium products.
This is why you need to get a PR company to reform your image. It makes people think you have something else to hide. No one is going to curse you for throwing MW's weight and money behind this, if you do in straight and openly.

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As I said above... taking out their revenue stream is causing them a headache for day until they have a new one, there are too many out there. Although I agree its a nice thing to annoy them with... and I am sure we will at some point be able to make sure paypal nolonger supports these sites...
Get a PR man.

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Rip out their hosting and hardware from under their feet and they get into real problems.
Get lawyers around the world.

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I agree, sending DMCA's is not fighting piracy, its a part of selling digital content.
And pirating it. AND has roved pointless.

Get behind this fight by funding someone else or setting it up and getting a good PR company to advise you. You're a 9 figure company for goodness sake, act like one.
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