Originally Posted by Mutt

it is socialized medicine, only difference is the mechanism by which people pay for it. over time it will become more like Canada's system. there was no way Obama or any other president could force a Canadian like system down people's throats, especially the fucking health insurance companies and every other corporation that enjoys gouging people who are sick, income taxes would have had to be raised a serious amount.

the medical industry is the tail that wags the dog and we sheep just let it get worse and worse - i'm a believer in capitalism but the one exception is the medical industry, there should be wage and price controls of the entire industry. it's not like any other industry, i do believe in any human society that good medical care is a right, whether you're a lazy unproductive parasite who drinks and eats himself into sickness or not.

all the talk about the deficit, a big part of that deficit could be knocked down by containing medical costs - the way you do it isn't by capping services to the sick, it's capping profits by those who provide care and all that goes with it. at one time people went into the healthcare field because it was a calling, to care for people who were sick and help prevent illness - greed took over the profession when drugs and technological advances opened the floodgates for the merchants of greed. you can't get lower than the insurance industry, well ..... then there's the banking industry.