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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls
Yeah since we have centralized things more we have not lost many of our rights.
patriot act, ndaa, indefinite imprisonment of citizens, citizen kill lists, warrantless searches, wire taps, spying on everyone's bank accounts, free speech cages, free speech free zones, undeclared wars of aggression, drone bombing of funerals, hospital workers etc. The list could go on forever.
I wonder why people would fight for their state not to join those causes?
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You know, people bitch about how their rights have been trampled and blah blah blah... And I just don't see it.
I still need a driver's license to drive my car and still go through the same search when I get on an airplane, just like I have for the past forty years. I do not need permission to leave the country or drive to another state, and so long as I do not shoot, kill, maim, hurt, rape, or rob anyone else I'm pretty much free to do whatever I want.
We have access to more information, free information, and none of it is censored.
The other things you mentioned...
Patriot Act: I do not know of anyone who has been personally affected by the Patriot Act. At all.
Indefinite Imprisonment of Citizens: Did we start locking up people and not giving them trials. I must have missed that.
Citizen Kill Lists: Sure thing.
Warrantless Searches: We've always had this; It's called Probable cause. I know us Americans are so afraid of searches and our privacy, but frankly, the cops are welcome in my house any time for any reason. I have nothing to fear; My life is pretty fucking dull.
Wiretaps: Great, read my email and listen to my phone calls. They can even read my text messages. All they'll find out is where my daughter is, being as that's what most of my text messages and phone calls are about.
Free Speech Cages: That's new to me.
Free Speech Zones: New to me also. Are you saying I can't stand outside of my town hall and call Obama names? I'm guessing I can.
Undeclared Wars Of Aggression: Now that's comical. My father died in Vietnam and I do not recall us declaring war on anyone. We do not need to declare war to have a military action, nor do I consider them "wars of aggression". Iraq attacked Kuwait, signed a peace treaty, and then violated it.
Drone Bombings of Funerals and Hospital Workers: I don't recall this. I'm pretty confident that it would have been front page news.
Whatever here.