Originally Posted by Si

Ok so let's take away the Religion.

Apparently, the Illuminati are behind the scenes in the USA, WeHatePorn has posted many a video and link to people in power in the US who are Illuminati, Bush, Clinton etc. etc.

Where do they come in? Was the Illuminati a shill for the Vatican? To empower Science while they led their followers to believe they were evil? Sucking in more Slaves while giving power to Science behind the scenes?

Also, where do the UN then fit into this grand Scheme if the Vatican is in Control?