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kane · 07-29-2012, 05:17 PM

The piece is mostly standard issue class warfare bullshit.

There is something to what he is saying. There are a small number of people who would rather be on welfare than work. I happen to know one of those people. That is never going to change no matter how good or bad the economy is. If you want to fix this you have to get rid of all forms of welfare which opens up a whole other can of worms.

Here is why it is mostly bullshit. What they are asking is that people take a step back in their lives. He says himself that most of these jobs are service and retail jobs that pay minimum wage. So let's say you had a job making $55K per year and you lost it due to no fault of your own. So you go on unemployment and will likely draw the max which is about $425 per week. Now you set out to find a job. You could quickly take a job of $8 per hour which means you will actually be making less than being on unemployment (which, btw, has been paid into by your past employers) and your expenses are likely going to go up because you will have to pay for gas or bus fare or whatever to get to this job. You know this is just a temp job to hold you over until you get something better and likely so does the person hiring you even if you fed them some line of bullshit about wanting to make this your new career. In addition to having less money this new job also makes finding that better job more difficult because you have a lot less time to search and will likely have to ask for time off to go to interviews etc.

So if it were you which would you rather do? A. You could stay on unemployment and put all your efforts into either finding a job that paid about what you made before or getting yourself retrained to do a different similar paying job, or B. You can take the job that will pay you less than you earn on unemployment which will put even more hardship on you and make finding the better job or getting the training/education for the better job significantly more difficult?

To me the real problem isn't people staying on unemployment too long. It is that our government often hands millions of dollars in subsidiaries and tax cuts out to companies that move all of their jobs to third world countries so that they can make a few extra dollars. I say they do away with all of that crap and if they are going to hand government money out to any companies/industries it should be those who go the extra mile to keep and create jobs here.

07-29-2012, 05:17 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	The piece is mostly standard issue class warfare bullshit. There is something to what he is saying. There are a small number of people who would rather be on welfare than work. I happen to know one of those people. That is never going to change no matter how good or bad the economy is. If you want to fix this you have to get rid of all forms of welfare which opens up a whole other can of worms. Here is why it is mostly bullshit. What they are asking is that people take a step back in their lives. He says himself that most of these jobs are service and retail jobs that pay minimum wage. So let's say you had a job making $55K per year and you lost it due to no fault of your own. So you go on unemployment and will likely draw the max which is about $425 per week. Now you set out to find a job. You could quickly take a job of $8 per hour which means you will actually be making less than being on unemployment (which, btw, has been paid into by your past employers) and your expenses are likely going to go up because you will have to pay for gas or bus fare or whatever to get to this job. You know this is just a temp job to hold you over until you get something better and likely so does the person hiring you even if you fed them some line of bullshit about wanting to make this your new career. In addition to having less money this new job also makes finding that better job more difficult because you have a lot less time to search and will likely have to ask for time off to go to interviews etc. So if it were you which would you rather do? A. You could stay on unemployment and put all your efforts into either finding a job that paid about what you made before or getting yourself retrained to do a different similar paying job, or B. You can take the job that will pay you less than you earn on unemployment which will put even more hardship on you and make finding the better job or getting the training/education for the better job significantly more difficult? To me the real problem isn't people staying on unemployment too long. It is that our government often hands millions of dollars in subsidiaries and tax cuts out to companies that move all of their jobs to third world countries so that they can make a few extra dollars. I say they do away with all of that crap and if they are going to hand government money out to any companies/industries it should be those who go the extra mile to keep and create jobs here.