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Old 08-11-2012, 11:11 AM  
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Government spending is often borrowed money
It's tax payer money, which is stolen, not borrowed.

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The money is injected into the economies of these countries. Providing jobs and business in so many sectors and parts of the country. It's now become a form of life support for a country.

So cut off the life support and then what. Where, how and effects will be the consequences?
Who will pick the cotton if we end slavery? Who will keep our women in line if we stop beating them? Consequentialism. Go back to first principles and let's agree on a common axiom that violence or the threat of violence (coercion) against peaceful individuals is immoral. Once you understand that, consequences of ending immoral behavior are irrelevant.

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Cutting taxes does not stimulate comparable growth. People work harder when they have to. Don't bring up the unemployed unless you can find jobs for all of them. Still there has to be some element of them contributing to society in return for society contributing to them.
Business owners employ people. That's the contribution to society that business owners make.

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Cutting taxes put more money in more pockets that have jobs, to spend in local shops on imported goods. not basic items they currently buy.
How about we remove taxation (hierarchical theft) all together? That would put more money in everyone's pocket, 20-40%+ more.

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No "Cut taxes" propaganda slogans please and no stats from when the West exported more than it does today.
When you argue for taxation at any level, whether it be the man who owns multi billion dollar businesses or a family of 5 just barely making it, taxation is immoral.

I could go on with some consequentialist utilitarian arguments that show just how a society could work and function (and function much better mind you) without the forced extraction of money from its citizens, just as philosophers could point out exactly who would pick the cotton if slavery were ended, but it's pretty pointless.

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