[QUOTE=galleryseek;19115701]It's tax payer money, which is stolen, not borrowed.
So where is the borrowed money going?
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Who will pick the cotton if we end slavery? Who will keep our women in line if we stop beating them? Consequentialism. Go back to first principles and let's agree on a common axiom that violence or the threat of violence (coercion) against peaceful individuals is immoral. Once you understand that, consequences of ending immoral behavior are irrelevant.
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WTF?
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Business owners employ people. That's the contribution to society that business owners make.
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They also ship jobs overseas, automate and cut jobs.
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How about we remove taxation (hierarchical theft) all together? That would put more money in everyone's pocket, 20-40%+ more.
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No it wouldn't, go think it through.
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When you argue for taxation at any level, whether it be the man who owns multi billion dollar businesses or a family of 5 just barely making it, taxation is immoral.
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So let's go back to the days of no taxes. Any idea when that was?
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I could go on with some consequentialist utilitarian arguments that show just how a society could work and function (and function much better mind you) without the forced extraction of money from its citizens, just as philosophers could point out exactly who would pick the cotton if slavery were ended, but it's pretty pointless.
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You could, next time try to make sense instead of nonsense.
Borrowing is to cut the gap between taxes and spending. Businessmen employ people as a last resort, because people are often the most expensive part of running a business. They automate, streamline or ship jobs overseas to cheaper countries.
Cutting taxes, takes money from one pocket and puts it into another pocket. It means people lose jobs and spend less.
Taxes in way form or another have been with us for millennium. Wasn't that the reason for the War of Independence, didn't Prince John raise English taxes to pay for Richard's Crusades? It goes way way back. Because it works.
I said think it through = No slogans.
Robbie's right they should allow the pipeline and get Government inspectors in to make doubly sure the pipeline doesn't end up creating what the lack of inspectors created in the Gulf of Mexico. GS, should we cut that spending to save you a few bucks? Add to it all the other benefits from taxes.