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Old 08-11-2012, 09:09 PM  
galleryseek
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So where is the borrowed money going?
What borrowed money? I told you, it's stolen; not borrowed. It's going to other individuals.

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WTF?
What part of what I said confuses you?


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They also ship jobs overseas, automate and cut jobs.
Why would a business choose to ship jobs over seas? Because they hate america? Nah, because business is cheaper in other regions of the world.

How do we fix this problem? Hmm, perhaps we get rid of the minimum wage laws? Maybe get rid of regulations? Yeah, that's how. Because if you think about it, how is it anyone's right (including the state) to tell two consenting adults that they can't have an employer/employee relationship together?

Please, please, please watch this video to understand exactly how minimum wage laws hurt Americans:



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No it wouldn't, go think it through.
You're talking about people who currently don't make any money? Or people who currently receive stolen money (tax) from others via the form of welfare? Sorry, I'm not exactly sympathetic towards those people.

Also, if you go and try to make the claim that people would starve if we're not providing them welfare, you're incorrect. Without taxation, voluntary contributions would be much higher than they are now as more people would have more money in the bank. No one would need to starve.


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So let's go back to the days of no taxes. Any idea when that was?
Nope, because we've pretty much always had taxes. But to say because we've always had taxes, means that we must always have taxes is the most ridiculous and illogical argument I've ever heard. Anarchy does not mean without rules, it means without rulers. That's a very important distinction to be made.

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You could, next time try to make sense instead of nonsense.
Instead of making broad-sweeping statements like that, try to refute the aspects of my argument(s) that are of nonsense to you. It just makes you look foolish.


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Taxes in way form or another have been with us for millennium. Wasn't that the reason for the War of Independence, didn't Prince John raise English taxes to pay for Richard's Crusades? It goes way way back. Because it works.
Haha, yeah, it works so well, it's not as if nations right now are currently crumbling under debt. Taxation is theft of its citizens, it always has been and always will be.

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Robbie's right they should allow the pipeline and get Government inspectors in to make doubly sure the pipeline doesn't end up creating what the lack of inspectors created in the Gulf of Mexico. GS, should we cut that spending to save you a few bucks? Add to it all the other benefits from taxes.
This is assuming of course that "government inspectors" always do what's right. Unfortunately we've seen time and time again, they don't. They're corruptible, they abuse power, and they're inefficient.

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