08-31-2012, 05:12 AM
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Too lazy to set a custom title
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Originally Posted by spazlabz
I'll bite
the big 3 you named in the thread starter all originate from one man.. Abraham, or rather can all trace their lines back to that one common denominator. Essentially three branches from the same tree. Expecting substantially different behaviors from any of the three doesn't make much sense. They are all convinced of their infallibility, all convinced that if you do not agree with them you're going to be punished and many so called believers are willing to kill you over your non-compliance (to a lesser extent in modern times).
However, asking for proof of the afterlife or 'heaven' is equally as foolish as believing in it. What comes after death be it rewards or punishment are articles of faith. By definition they cannot be proved or disproved...to believe they must be taken on faith. By no means does that imply that YOU need to have faith, but demanding proof for you to be convinced is simply argumentative for its own sake.
True Christians, and I am talking about knowledgeable, compassionate and intelligent Christians (yes Virginia, they do exist) would not judge you. They would love you. Yes they would definitely try and 'help' you to see the light but they would not be passing laws to force you to conform to their beliefs (render unto Caesar what is Caesar's) and they most definitely would not be murdering, raping or stealing to their hearts/heart's/hearts' content. The problem is that those kinds of Christians are a very small minority and the real churches have almost all disappeared. The ones where their focus is on how a person worships in this world for what comes in the next are gone and it appears that now they are more concerned with forcing their morality down the throats of everyone around them, even those that tacitly agree with them so that they can FEEL righteous instead of acting righteously.
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you wrote that, and what Paul understands/hears from that is this:
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