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Originally Posted by kane
I understand that these things happened. What I want to know is if people believe that Bush and others carried out the 9/11 attacks so that they could pass the Patriot Act and invade Iraq if so what did they personally have to gain from doing these things?
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Power? Money? The usual things. Again, the fact that they did those things demonstrates that they had something to gain from it, otherwise they would not have done it.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
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I've only read the start of that so far, but I wish there were more people making this point:
"One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs [...] outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs."
That's essentially my main argument and position, in fact it's what I said in above, in post 124, that
to believe the official story you have to believe in something that is simply not believable.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
That is a well thought out and articulate point Bryan. Well it would be if it weren't vague and unclear as to your meaning
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It's funny how so many learned opponents of people who question aspects of 9/11, people who know so much better, can't do anything more than hurl insults, without contributing anything remotely substantial to the discussion.