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Nathan · 09-13-2012, 03:42 PM

1) You asked me if I offered Derrick Burts 10k.
2) I said no, I did not.
3) You then prove me wrong by saying that I told Derrick that Manwin is not the right entity to get consulting from him, but since James Lee runs the campaign against the condom campaign from AHF he likely is a good one to talk to.

Specifically what I said was: "Your experience with everything I think is very valuable to someone working directly against the condom initiative. We (Manwin) are not the right person to get consulting from you."

Your reasoning is as awesome as always... you have claimed I pay James Lee, thus I am James Lee, thus I offered 10k...

FSC's campaign against the initiative is supported by multiple parties, inside and outside of the industry. So it was hardly me that offered him 10k to work together with them and help them get the message across.

What James Lee asked him to do I have no idea. I definitely did not ask him to "recant".

BTW, one thing might be of interest to some people here too, which you have not mentioned... I told him that we are not the right entity to hire him after HE ASKED ME if I wanted to offer him more than AHF is paying him.

I had originally emailed him a week or two earlier because I never heard his side of his case's story from himself directly. He started talking about AHF paying him.

Just so people do not put words in my mouth again... I am not saying Derrick was paid by the AHF to lie! He simply was paid by the AHF to help them campaign against the industry.

09-13-2012, 03:42 PM
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	1) You asked me if I offered Derrick Burts 10k. 2) I said no, I did not. 3) You then prove me wrong by saying that I told Derrick that Manwin is not the right entity to get consulting from him, but since James Lee runs the campaign against the condom campaign from AHF he likely is a good one to talk to. Specifically what I said was: "Your experience with everything I think is very valuable to someone working directly against the condom initiative. We (Manwin) are not the right person to get consulting from you." Your reasoning is as awesome as always... you have claimed I pay James Lee, thus I am James Lee, thus I offered 10k... FSC's campaign against the initiative is supported by multiple parties, inside and outside of the industry. So it was hardly me that offered him 10k to work together with them and help them get the message across. What James Lee asked him to do I have no idea. I definitely did not ask him to "recant". BTW, one thing might be of interest to some people here too, which you have not mentioned... I told him that we are not the right entity to hire him after HE ASKED ME if I wanted to offer him more than AHF is paying him. I had originally emailed him a week or two earlier because I never heard his side of his case's story from himself directly. He started talking about AHF paying him. Just so people do not put words in my mouth again... I am not saying Derrick was paid by the AHF to lie! He simply was paid by the AHF to help them campaign against the industry. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger