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Originally Posted by kane
By reasonable I mean that their leader doesn't call for the destruction of entire races of people.
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Yawn. Please stick to things that have actually happened instead of repeating the same old tired lies. All Ahmadinejad has talked about is removing/replacing the Israeli regime, and how the world would be a better place without Zionism.
Why is when we talk about "wiping out" Governments we don't like, we call it "regime change", and it's perfectly acceptable? But when Iran does it, it becomes a bunch of ridiculous garbage about 'wiping out a race'?
If you're not even going to post sanely and rationally it's not worth debating.
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Many of their leaders now are radical Islamist. If that is what they want to believe and how they want to live their lives, I don't really give a shit. I do have issues with them forcing their will on others, but that is another thread all together.
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Of course, American allies like Saudi Arabia are notorious for their democracy, moderation and fair treatment of their people.
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What I do have a problem with is putting a nuke into the hands of someone who might believe that if they light that bomb off in the middle of Tel Aviv they will go to heaven and spend eternity fucking 72 virgins.
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Two questions:
1. Do you think Iran has non-nuclear bombs?
2. If you do, why haven't they detonated one in Tel Aviv?
If the best you can do is invent ridiculous situations that will never happen (the Iranians don't even want nukes, though they should), then you really have no argument at all. And spare the '72 virgin' nonsense if you want to be taken even remotely seriously; it just makes you look a total dumbass to people who have a clue.
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The hope is that these young people will not be as radical so when you try to reason with them and talk about some give and take from both sides they won't refuse anything that isn't exactly what they want.
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Why should they agree to do something that's not in their interests? Would we? If Russia or China started telling us to behave in ways they like, do you think we should do it? Why don't we just mind our own fucking business?
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