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Old 09-27-2012, 08:15 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 View Post
Yawn. Please stick to things that have actually happened instead of repeating the same old tired lies. All Ahmadinejad has talked about is removing/replacing the Israeli regime, and how the world would be a better place without Zionism.

Why is when we talk about "wiping out" Governments we don't like, we call it "regime change", and it's perfectly acceptable? But when Iran does it, it becomes a bunch of ridiculous garbage about 'wiping out a race'?

If you're not even going to post sanely and rationally it's not worth debating.



Of course, American allies like Saudi Arabia are notorious for their democracy, moderation and fair treatment of their people.



Two questions:

1. Do you think Iran has non-nuclear bombs?
2. If you do, why haven't they detonated one in Tel Aviv?

If the best you can do is invent ridiculous situations that will never happen (the Iranians don't even want nukes, though they should), then you really have no argument at all. And spare the '72 virgin' nonsense if you want to be taken even remotely seriously; it just makes you look a total dumbass to people who have a clue.



Why should they agree to do something that's not in their interests? Would we? If Russia or China started telling us to behave in ways they like, do you think we should do it? Why don't we just mind our own fucking business?

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As I said before in this thread I personally don't give a fuck about Israel or Iran.

I think we should increase our solar and wind power here in the US. We should tap into the sea of natural gas we have in the gulf and drill for a little more oil and get to the point where we have no oil needs at all from the middle east. At that time we tell Israel they are on their own. If they want to come here and live, fine by me, but if they are going to stay there and fight over a piece of dirt, they are on their own.

Once we are gone from the region those middle eastern countries they can go back to fighting each other which is exactly what they will do. That part of the world has known nothing but violence and blood in the sand since the beginning of recorded time there is no reason to think it will ever stop. Many of them are radicals with no ability to reason outside of their belief system.

If you want to believe they are just friendly, nice people (when I say this I say it about the leadership, not so much the people themselves) who would never harm anyone you are free to do so. I believe otherwise.

As for the quote. This is what it is widely reported as being: "There is no doubt that the new wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

He didn't say that they Iran should destroy Israel simply that if Palestine attacked it would be able to wipe them out and that imam said they should be destroyed.

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