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Originally Posted by kane
There are many sources out there that state that the Islamic Jihad movement has been heavily funded by Iran.
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It's no secret that Iran (and Syria) has been involved in supporting Lebanese resistance movements. So what? Those movements arose to expel Israeli occupation, and remove the, at the time, US/multi-national presence in Lebanon, which was pro-Israeli and pro-Christian. If the US, which of course supported the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, hadn't been in Lebanon, let alone been shelling innocent Lebanese, the Marines killed there would still be alive today.
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Can you show me some proof of this?
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Proof of what? That someone inserted the word "Israel"? He didn't even mention the word Israel in his speech. Here's a transcript of the speech from a notoriously pro-Iranian source, the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/we...ew/30iran.html
"Bracketed explanatory material is from Ms. Fathi [a New York Times 'journalist']."
The only references to "Israel" are written by her. He mentions the United States by name, so why, if he's talking about Israel and not Zionism, does he specifically say "Zionism", and not "Israel"?
It's up to you whether you want to honestly address
what he actually said (the text without brackets), or what other people, with an obvious agenda and axe to grind, claim he said.
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Clearly we have different opinions of Iran. I am not endorsing an invasion of them. I am not saying we should wipe them off the planet. I am saying that we should be wary of them and it might be in our best interests to keep them from having nuclear weapons.
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It's in the best interests of the world for nobody to have nukes, and the whole world wants a nuclear free Middle East. Guess which two countries agree with a nuclear free ME,
but with one obvious exception?
Iran does not even want nukes, even though they should, given the threats and actual attacks they receive constantly from war-mongering nuclear-armed countries. Iran wants nuclear
power, just as many other countries have nuclear power and don't have nukes. Even Iranians that are opposed to Ahmadinejad think their country should be able to develop nuclear power.
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You, apparently, feel they are a sweet, innocent, misunderstood country who just want to get along with everyone and live peacefully ever after.
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Got any evidence to show otherwise? I can show you countless wars and attacks on foreign countries by the US and Israel in the last half a century. How many can you give me for Iran?
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I don't just feel this way about Iran. I feel the same way about Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Yeman, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and pretty much any country that is run by religious zealots.
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Actually, Israel has more religious zealots in positions of power than Syria or Jordan, both of which are secular countries. In Israel the Government relies on the support of extremist religious nuts and frequently caves in to their demands; Syria OTOH, as with formerly secular Libya, is right now under attack from Islamist terrorists supported and armed by us and the Saudis.
The Saudis, who gave us Bin Laden and, apparently, most of the 9/11 hijackers, are of course enormously fundamentalist and dangerous. But since they're considered no threat to Israeli domination of the ME, and they have oil and buy arms from us, their extremism, tyranny and involvement in terrorism is ignored.
Other countries with a formerly secular Government, but which are now controlled by religious extremists thanks to the US, include: Iraq.
If the US Government is so against Islamic extremism, why does it support it so much?