Originally Posted by Relentless

If that is true, I feel very sorry for your family.

When you argue 'this or that candidate' it becomes impossible to push people off their stated positions. However, when you argue ideas it becomes very easy to change the mind of anyone seriously interested in finding solutions, or to have your own mind changed by people you respect. If you have no interest in changing your mind and no hope of changing theirs... why not just go talk to a wall instead?

I used to be a huge proponent of a flat tax. My time chatting with Minte and KK, mostly on JBM back in the day convinced me a national sales tax is a better method (though a nominal flat tax in the 10% range for everyone would likely be needed as well). I've changed my mind on plenty of other things over the years discussing them with people I respect. I know I have also changed the minds of many people in the discussions. You ought to try doing it that way, you will likely find it refreshing.