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Old 10-03-2012, 09:04 AM  
MarkDeus
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Last may in Miami, Some poor guy was pushing his tube site at a seminar called "How to make money with tube sites". The seminar was a disaster and the poor guy up front got blasted by several people in the audience. The argument that broke out was about copyright infringement and the apparent lack of some tube site owners to control it.

One of the things he was asking for was for everyone to upload videos of at least 10 minutes long or longer, saying that long videos get higher rankings, so more people see them, so they convert traffic better, etc.

To me this sounded like bullshit. Popular videos would be seen more often sure, but that only meant that ads for that video would be seen more too, so the tube site could make more money from the ads.

I see posts on GFY once in a while asking for videos, and a few tube site owners have tried to get us to provide them content too, of 10 minutes or more.

My question is this: Who says that 10 minutes is some kind of magic number? To me, if a porn consumer is watching a video for that long, he has plenty of time and interest to masturbate and get it over with long before he would ever click-through to any website providing that video.

So Tube site owners : If you ask for content, is your pitch to producers to ask for 10 minute + videos? If so, what is your justification? Any stats that you can show?

To content providers : If you provide legal content to tube sites, what is the return you are getting as far as clicks and sales? How are you tracking it and do longer videos really work better than short teasers?
The truth is that most small-time tubes are following by the book what's written in the documentation left by the bigger tubes. They have no choice but to adapt in order to stay competitive.
If that guy got blasted, maybe he should try to make his tubesite legal, and have a strong stance on piracy, end of story.

As for the 10 minutes, there is indeed, no magic number. What you need to understand is that the average porn-surfer knows his porn. Why would he click on a 3:00 clip when he can have access to a 23:54 clip with a money shot? after a while he will identify quickly your material, and start to ignore it, giving your brand a bad name.
The goal with long clips is to simulate that experience. However, most tube sites will negotiate they membership sales in order to obtain these lengths, and to make it lucrative for you.

Speaking of this, Please contact me if you want your clips online. I'd be happy to set something up with you. Yes, we convert, and no, we don't accept anonymous uploads. Pornerbros is 100% legal, and will always be.
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