We are doing fine and we have no intention to be a follower of the ''freemium model.''

Paul, you behave like a bitter old man -- not dignified at all and redundant.

Cams are not at the root of paysite sales declines; a changing market is the cause with a substantial market share moving to cams and dating as people desire a more interactive sex experience on the Internet.

We buy traffic where is there is traffic. If the sites that had traffic were TGP and MGP we would buy that traffic but they have lost in the traffic wars -- the cam and dating industry is not to blame for that loss this is just a crybaby excuse. As far as I am concerned; get the traffic and we will buy it. If anyone has 50K+ a day in Western European traffic (site owners only) hit me up on it.

We are in the people business and many here just don't get it.

Traffic these days is not the best quality and we have to ''feed the machine'' larger quantities of this available traffic for sale.

As for sites with 300 in a cam chatroom with 5 guys tipping and 295 guys getting a free ride to inflate the egos of the 5 guys being big shots for tipping -- we have chosen not to compete in that market -- it is all theirs ...