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Old 11-05-2012, 01:46 AM  
Paul Markham
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What shocks me is how many people are suddenly "pro-govt." and have no problem with them spending 10.6 BILLION dollars a DAY.

It blows my mind. I grew up when liberals were anti-govt.
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Definitely Sarah Palin. Don't get me wrong...she is a smokin' hot looking milf. But she is also a religious nut job.

Of course if he had picked Romney...it wouldn't have been much better. McCain/Lieberman I could have voted for.

I hate big govt. and paying all these taxes. They are taking damn near 40% of everything I make. It's fucking criminal. And the American people don't see it because years ago they instituted an ingenious thing called "payroll tax"

So 99.9% of the people never have to write a check to the govt. They never see it, so it doesn't exist. Their taxes are taken before they get their paycheck.

If they actually had to pay quarterly taxes like I do....there would be fucking revolution.

Which reminds me...I STILL haven't paid my 3rd quarter federal taxes. That will be a nice $19,000 check. I could sure think of a lot better things to do with MY money. But I guess I should at least be thankful that I got a "tax break" the last few years. What a joke.

Is there anyway to have a candidate who is fiscally conservative and socially liberal? Someone who won't steal my money and at the same time will stay out of my life?

No...
So 13% income tax, how do you pay the other 27%?

If all Americans paid that amount the deficit would be smaller.

Do you think under Johnson you will pay less tax?

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THE U.S. TAX SYSTEM IMPOSES AN ENORMOUS toll on productivity through high marginal rates, absurd complexity, loopholes for the well-connected, and incentives for wasteful decisions. A better, fairer system will be:

Abolish the Internal Revenue Service.

Enact the Fair Tax to tax expenditures, rather than income, with a 'prebate' to make spending on basic necessities tax free.

With the Fair Tax, eliminate business taxes, withholding and other levies that penalize productivity, while creating millions of jobs.
So do away with Income tax and have a straight Sales Tax. That will mean id you go out and buy a $50,000 car today. After the added sales tax it will cost $70,000. In fact everything you buy other than basic food will get a 40% tax added to it.

You do pay 40% so it will be hard to dodge this.

Of course the Government still takes 40% and you can't claim for diddly squat off you business expenses. Other than real expenditure for the business. No "Charitable Donations, Cayman Banking, etc loop holes. The poor will vote this guy in tomorrow.


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[COLOR="rgb(0, 255, 255)"]MUCH FEDERAL INTERVENTION IS A PAYOUT TO special interests or counterproductive meddling that stifles competition, innovation, and growth.[/COLOR]

We should:

Reject auto and banking bailouts, state bailouts, corporate welfare, cap-and-trade, card check, and the mountain of regulation that protects special interests rather than benefiting consumers or the economy.

Restrict Federal Reserve policy to maintaining price stability, not bailing out financial firms or propping up the housing sector.

Eliminate government support of Fannie and Freddie.

Reduce or eliminate federal involvement in education; let states expand successful reforms such as vouchers and charter schools.

Legalize, tax, and regulate marijuana, rather than wasting money on an expensive and futile prohibition.

Eliminate needless barriers to free trade and make it easier for would-be legal immigrants to apply for work visas.
Sack car workers and go into the next Great Depression. Because the reason for the Banks failing was the mole hill of regulations. They didn't have enough Government regulators, same with Bernie Madoff who got away with his ponzi scheme because of the lack of regulations.

Yes agree with the Fannie and Freddie part. Making it easier to get a mortgage does nothing but inflate house prices to beyond their true value.

Yes education should be regulated at a local level.

Legalising marijuana is a vote loser. will never happen.

Eliminate trade barriers. where in China? Or just make it easier for imports to come into the US?

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GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SIMPLY WON'T WORK. Competition and Price Transparency WILL work.

Fewer government mandates and less regulation will allow innovation and competition to make health care more affordable and more accessible to all Americans.

Removing arbitrary obstacles to interstate competition among health insurance providers will reduce costs.
Now I see why he wants Pot legalised, it will bring down his spending on the stuff.

GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SIMPLY DOES WORK. It's proven to work in so many places in the World I wonder where he got the idea it doesn't.

What doesn't work and never will, is shaping it so it's doomed to fail.
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