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Old 11-19-2012, 03:44 PM  
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 View Post
So you're assuming that everyone who 'revises' history is doing it for totally academic and un-ideological reasons. Except when it comes to this particular event, whereupon ideology can be the only possible reason?

And BTW, why does it even matter what the ideology or motivation of the historian is, if what they uncover turns out to be factually correct?
There is a body of evidence that supports the broad theory that there was an officially sanctioned state powered policy of eliminating the Jewish people from the countries occupied by Nazi Germany during WWII.

Early evidence begins in the late 20's with Mein Kampf, the rise of National Socialism, the Stormtroopers, the street battles against the communists. The Nazis begin to have some democratic success and Hitler eventually becomes chancellor. Throughout this period his speeches and writing are filmed and widely reported in German and foreign press. His anti semitism is a central part of the political narrative. The first concentration camp is opened within weeks of Hitler taking office.
Then as soon power is cemented via imprisonment and murder of his rivals the lot of the Jews of europe takes significant turn for the worse. The Nuremberg laws remove Jews from positions of authority and ban them from owning property.
After the invasion of Poland and the outbreak of war the Jewish problem becomes acute for the Nazi leadership. The sheer numbers of Jews they are encountering in the conquered territories of the east (5m in Poland alone) drives them to increasingly barbourous acts. Commando groups are formed from particularly ardent anti semitic members of the SS, they roam the villages of Eastern Europe murdering whole communities wherever they find Jewish settlements. However this policy is slow and inefficient. A final solution is required.
The Warsaw ghetto is emptied and the wholesale industrial murder is now in full flow.


I could go on. Everything above is documented by the Nazis themselves. In their own newspapers and Nazi propaganda news films. Nothing is denied or challenged. Eye witness accounts are available. The body of evidence is enormous including the documents and official orders that detail the costs of transport and disposal of the Jews, and the expected return from the theft of their goods, clothes, hair, and teeth.

So I have no ideological axe to grind. But I know what my eyes tell me. I know that huge numbers of Jews perished at the hands Nazi Germany.

The dogs in the street know this.

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