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Old 11-21-2012, 04:18 PM  
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Dying is extinction. True adaption is evolution.

Evolve then into a higher species... one that has its own merch accounts, a beast that can scrub itself, make more per transaction, pay more per affiliate...

In any event, you both still don't get it. Sponsors that cascade are always going to process wherever they get the most transactions through, the purpose of cascading is to find that point of high tolerance, so CCbill has a competitive interest in putting through as many sales as possible, regardless, so that logic is flawed. Yes, they may want to keep their risk assessment protocols a secret, but more so from fraudsters than legit sponsors. It would be in their interest to let Sponsors know why a sale is scrubbed or not because that would give the sponsor greater comfort in knowing how high their tolerance for risk is in relation to overall sales volume in relation to CBs, and offer a potential competitive edge over processor B that scrubs more or less tolerantly.

Scrubbing is not some dubiously mysterious thing that is controlled by mystical knowledge of powerful algorithms controlled by the Bro-hood. Mismatched info, expired cards, bad addresses, lack of security number, country of origin, etc., all might get scrubbed for solid reasons, and as I said before, CCbill has a vested interest in pushing through as many sales as possible too, nor will they scrub your valid sales EVER, and they want you to stay in the zone for percentage of CBs.

Instead of wondering if CCbill is "overscrubbing" are you looking first at whether or not your traffic suddenly spiked with certain well known high risk traffic sources? Are you looking at the affiliate that sent the traffic? Usually the answers there are pretty obvious and spell out the more accurate issue than getting scrubbed too hard by CCbill.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving gentlemen. I thank you both for a civil discourse on the subject.
Scrubbing is indeed a logical process and quite understandable. But when it comes to CASCADING there we have a major issue....

Here's what I mean: I know that CCBill (and probably other billers, too) do NOT cascade every single time a transaction is denied. If so, I would see numbers "adding up" with both bilers. In other words, 10 form hits, 4 denials when i check the CCBill stats. So shouldn't I then see 4 form hits for the secondary biller? You would think so - but nope. Sometimes, in an example like the above, I might see 1 form hit, or 2, or none at all to the cascaded second biller. Then, when i investigate further, it seems that CCBill declined the transaction, not the bank, and the cascade did not go through.

Now shouldn't another biller get a chance at that transaction? CCBill (or, again, ANY processer) can decline whatever they want but if we have a cascade in place then, well, cascade dammit! LOL

So anomolies and unexplained 'patterns' still exist (to me). But I will reiterate: this doesn't mean you should knee-jerk 'blame the biller'.
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