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Old 12-16-2012, 01:17 PM  
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Originally Posted by MaDalton View Post
the point for me is: those things almost never happen when no guns are involved - or, like in the recent case in China, 22 children get INJURED by a knife - but none of them was killed.

so yes, i do think guns being easily available is a factor and as far as we know this kid went to the shooting range with his mother in the past, so he knew how to use them.
I think the core issue is always going to be that "guns" and that right are part of the very identity of this country in the mind of most. Reason and logic will never play a role in the abolition of anything. It will have to be fear overriding personal beliefs. So maybe when its 5000 people getting gunned down, it will change things.

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of course there would be dozens of other possibilities how to commit a similar crime - but why dont they ever happen? why is it always a shooting?
My point is that it's always shooting because guns are there. Remove guns and then it will be something else. I don't believe guns or no guns is the determining factor... if anything, its the lazy way out and psychos have yet to be forced to think of more brilliant ways to commit mass murder.

It's not overly difficult to create nerve agents and bombs or to just steal a tanker full of gasoline, open the valve and do a few laps around a school before lighting it on fire. So the irony in banning guns in my opinion, is that it would simply force people to look at alternative methods to kill large numbers of people.

Also, my firm belief is that the first and biggest problem is cultural, not whether or not one has access to weapons and which types of weapons.
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