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crockett · 12-16-2012, 11:35 PM

You don't have to ban guns.. You simply have to make sure the wrong people don't have them. There is nothing wrong with guns in the hands of responsible citizens it's the irresponsible ones that cause most of the problems but fixing that goes way beyond just control.

Want to fix the gun problems in the US that's cool but it's bigger than just guns.

1) Give strict jail sentences for felons that are caught with a gun, not just ones that use a gun while committing a crime. If they committed a violent crime then they forfeit their gun ownership for life. If they committed a non violent crime then after X amount of time they should be able to get a gun permit for home defense only but if caught with gun off their own property then result back to strict sentence.

This is half the problem with ex-cons in this country, once they do their time they are usually marked for life so there is little reason for them to no return to a life of crime because most can never advance past due to society not being willing to give them another chance.

2) This ties into what I said before.. but education is a must. I'm not talking about gun education, but rather making sure anyone that wants it's including those felons sitting in jail have access to a proper education that can get them a "real" job.

Kids shouldn't be going into debt for tens or even a hundred thousand plus just to get an education. They should have the ability to get a state funded college degree or get access to trade school training that gives them the training to get a decent skilled labor job.

This same thing should be offered to felons. You are never going to solve our gun problems by just strict law enforcement, you have to change the reasons people turn to guns to commit crimes. Most inner city gun violence is because of a bigger problem of lack of ability for those people to do anything worthwhile with their lives.

As a country we then have to provide them with those jobs.. Again a much bigger issue than just guns.

3) Health care.. We simply can not fix the problems of this country with out making sure people have access to affordable health care. It's one of the core things that keeps this country from advancing.

4) Licences & background checks for all guns. Every gun not just handguns should require a license & background check. A unlicensed gun should be treated just like one that has it's serial number filed off and dealt with using once again strict penalties.

Part of this means that you must be a US citizen to own a gun in the US, if caught with a gun then you get deported. You put the time & effort into becoming a responsible citizen then you can carry a gun. This of course leads into the bigger issues of illegal immigration.

It's not about the guns or what types of guns people have access to, but it's more about who is getting their hands on them and the other problems that we face as a society. Start fixing those other problems and address gun ownership in a responsible way and we will start to see gun crime go down in this country.

The funny thing is no one cares about fixing the real problems..

The problem is in this country.. half the things I listed will get me labeled as a hardcore socialist and the other half labeled as a hardcore conservative. This is the real problem that faces this country is the inability for both political parties to look to each side and accept that both sides have some ideas that will help fix our problems and to work together on a middle ground solution.

12-16-2012, 11:35 PM
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	You don't have to ban guns.. You simply have to make sure the wrong people don't have them. There is nothing wrong with guns in the hands of responsible citizens it's the irresponsible ones that cause most of the problems but fixing that goes way beyond just control. Want to fix the gun problems in the US that's cool but it's bigger than just guns. 1) Give strict jail sentences for felons that are caught with a gun, not just ones that use a gun while committing a crime. If they committed a violent crime then they forfeit their gun ownership for life. If they committed a non violent crime then after X amount of time they should be able to get a gun permit for home defense only but if caught with gun off their own property then result back to strict sentence. This is half the problem with ex-cons in this country, once they do their time they are usually marked for life so there is little reason for them to no return to a life of crime because most can never advance past due to society not being willing to give them another chance. 2) This ties into what I said before.. but education is a must. I'm not talking about gun education, but rather making sure anyone that wants it's including those felons sitting in jail have access to a proper education that can get them a "real" job. Kids shouldn't be going into debt for tens or even a hundred thousand plus just to get an education. They should have the ability to get a state funded college degree or get access to trade school training that gives them the training to get a decent skilled labor job. This same thing should be offered to felons. You are never going to solve our gun problems by just strict law enforcement, you have to change the reasons people turn to guns to commit crimes. Most inner city gun violence is because of a bigger problem of lack of ability for those people to do anything worthwhile with their lives. As a country we then have to provide them with those jobs.. Again a much bigger issue than just guns. 3) Health care.. We simply can not fix the problems of this country with out making sure people have access to affordable health care. It's one of the core things that keeps this country from advancing. 4) Licences & background checks for all guns. Every gun not just handguns should require a license & background check. A unlicensed gun should be treated just like one that has it's serial number filed off and dealt with using once again strict penalties. Part of this means that you must be a US citizen to own a gun in the US, if caught with a gun then you get deported. You put the time & effort into becoming a responsible citizen then you can carry a gun. This of course leads into the bigger issues of illegal immigration. It's not about the guns or what types of guns people have access to, but it's more about who is getting their hands on them and the other problems that we face as a society. Start fixing those other problems and address gun ownership in a responsible way and we will start to see gun crime go down in this country. The funny thing is no one cares about fixing the real problems.. The problem is in this country.. half the things I listed will get me labeled as a hardcore socialist and the other half labeled as a hardcore conservative. This is the real problem that faces this country is the inability for both political parties to look to each side and accept that both sides have some ideas that will help fix our problems and to work together on a middle ground solution. Last edited by crockett; 12-16-2012 at 11:44 PM..