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Your logic is about 99 kinds of messed up.
First, the girl was drinking and breaking the law in doing so. That does not mean she deserves to be raped. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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first: i made a mistake with the girl.
Then, i don't say the opposite.
In fact it's like a burglary: of course, it's illegal but if you leave your door open or if you made something that contribute to make it possible, for me it attenuates the fault because it just easier to do.
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Second, we make fun of prison rape in many cases as a form of a warning for those who might commit a crime or as a form of justice against those who have committed a terrible crime. The saying is that eventually you reap what you sow. If you commit a terrible crime you might find yourself in prison getting raped.
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absolutely not, it's a way to destroy people, while people who are doing it find convenient to think it's fun.
you need a link ?
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/25/brad...ul_rape_jokes/
With women, it's usually for pleasure (there is some exceptions)
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In the town I grew up in there was a big case a few years back when several members of the guy's high school basketball team used a broom handle to rape two other team members while on the bus ride home from a game. This was a form of "hazing". I can assure you nobody was laughing.
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because that story went public...
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It has already been proven that the girl in the link you provided is not the girl in this case,
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yes i know, i made a mistake.
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but even if it were, her going public does not mean it hasn't damaged her nor does it mean that her attackers deserve a lighter sentence.
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People tend to forget their rape, because it's hard to handle, so these one want to avoid this idea. If they become depressive, they want to avoid relationships. What is left ?
people that are not too destroyed (now)
But, when you are recognized as a raped woman you have this label... good luck.
I add that when people see that you are ok, they start to think that you could lie.
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Rape often fucks people up for life and damages them to the point where having healthy, normal relationships is very difficult.
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You copied and paste what you read on the subject. I read the same thing.
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It is not a crime that takes place and then is done once the act ends, it lingers and its damage can be felt for years and years and years. If someone has the courage to step forward and say they were the victim and put a face to the crime this does not mean that those who perpetrated the crime deserve a lesser sentence.
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do you realize, that you instill a kind of pressure that could suggest to a victim that her fate is to be destroyed slowly ?
Also, as i wrote before, i thought that she was in a kind of ethylic coma (i supposed that she drank too much), that they stripped her and finger her (this is what i understood). Now i'll tell you: a rape is not a kind of black magic with which you can destroy people: you have to figure out what happens. I just doubt it is the case if you are in an ethylic coma.
Again, i don't wrote that it was something to do, i wrote that it's not a same level of gravity that raping a woman in a bus (with 10 assholes who watch without doing something) with the help of a weapon.
I find that there is several level of gravity for a given crime and i found that the fact to finger a girl in an ethylic coma that she created is not exactly the same thing as raping a child with the help a weapon for example. Also, i wrote that the rapist was 16. Not 25... 16 !
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So I ask you what is the acceptable level of punishment for someone who does something to you that may very well psychologically damage you for life and if not life for many years to come?
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i don't make the laws, i don't see why judges shouldn't follow them.
(i mean excepted when it makes a scandal... i'm ironic...)