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Old 01-04-2013, 09:16 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by pornmasta View Post
first: i made a mistake with the girl.
Then, i don't say the opposite.
In fact it's like a burglary: of course, it's illegal but if you leave your door open or if you made something that contribute to make it possible, for me it attenuates the fault because it just easier to do.


absolutely not, it's a way to destroy people, while people who are doing it find convenient to think it's fun.
you need a link ?
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/25/brad...ul_rape_jokes/
With women, it's usually for pleasure (there is some exceptions)


because that story went public...



yes i know, i made a mistake.


People tend to forget their rape, because it's hard to handle, so these one want to avoid this idea. If they become depressive, they want to avoid relationships. What is left ?
people that are not too destroyed (now)
But, when you are recognized as a raped woman you have this label... good luck.
I add that when people see that you are ok, they start to think that you could lie.


You copied and paste what you read on the subject. I read the same thing.


do you realize, that you instill a kind of pressure that could suggest to a victim that her fate is to be destroyed slowly ?

Also, as i wrote before, i thought that she was in a kind of ethylic coma (i supposed that she drank too much), that they stripped her and finger her (this is what i understood). Now i'll tell you: a rape is not a kind of black magic with which you can destroy people: you have to figure out what happens. I just doubt it is the case if you are in an ethylic coma.
Again, i don't wrote that it was something to do, i wrote that it's not a same level of gravity that raping a woman in a bus (with 10 assholes who watch without doing something) with the help of a weapon.
I find that there is several level of gravity for a given crime and i found that the fact to finger a girl in an ethylic coma that she created is not exactly the same thing as raping a child with the help a weapon for example. Also, i wrote that the rapist was 16. Not 25... 16 !




i don't make the laws, i don't see why judges shouldn't follow them.
(i mean excepted when it makes a scandal... i'm ironic...)
I will agree with you that there is a chance that someone who is blacked out drunk who gets raped might not have the same level of trauma as someone who is awake, aware and brutalized during the rape. However, each person reacts differently to it.

When you say that people tend to forget their rape because it is hard to handle, that is not forgetting it, that is your mind regressing it for the sake of your own well being. My mom was raped several times by her uncle when she was a little kid. She regressed it and completely forgot it until she was in her late 50's, but when she looked back on it she could see how it had affected her life. She had shitty romantic relationships with men and tended to choose guys who were broken that she thought she could fix. She also had other issues that I won't go into because it is a long story. What I am getting at is that the affects can linger and cause you issues for a very long time.

For me the bottom line is this, and maybe I misread it. You seemed to suggest that because the girl was drunk the guys shouldn't get as harsh of a punishment. Is that the case?
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