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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I've never had any luck with mainstream on the internet.

I've made a little over $10 million since 1997 with online adult. But every mainstream thing I've tried (which is pretty much all of them lol) I've never made a dollar with.

And every time I've tried to get onboard as an affiliate with a mainstream product that I KNOW will sell (Iphones a few years ago for instance)...I go out of my way to get a great domain for it, host it on a non-adult hosting company, get everything in order...and then they reject my affiliate application.

I'm missing something with it for sure. I've had buddies email me with great new "can't miss" mainstream stuff...and it flopped.

I've had an online clothing store. Flopped.

I must have the worst luck at "mainstream" of anyone on the planet.
I'll be out in Vegas, maybe we can exchange business cards.

It's not really the type of product, it's the execution that is 1,000,000 times more efficient, for me. That being said, it doesn't sound like you need a lesson in anything. I wish I made $10 million in profit, that is awesome.

I also do not think mainstream is this glorious thing, but I'll explain briefly why I like it.

Let's say you've found something that converts on both mainstream and adult sites.

In adult, I have a steady stream of revenue. I can continue to buy advertising, but more often than not, the traffic is not targeted. If I was told a conversion ratio over 5 is attainable I'd say you're fucking nuts. Buying opt ins that haven't been absolutely raped with spam is like winning the lottery. Quality relationships can be made as a program owner, but often affiliates don't invest big money into advertising these days.

In mainstream, you can buy highly targeted traffic across an enormous exchange hitting virtually every market. You can build look alike models, run behavioral and banner/video remarketing advertising across the same exchange.

Create SMS opt ins on your own page, buy quality opt ins, create lead generation pages, use 3rd party data services to generate profiles using just a list of phone numbers. Seriously, the possibilities are endless. As a marketing geek I could never go back! I couldn't imagine buying hit and miss traffic ever again.

I'm not making a fortune, but I'm happy, (and making more every month).

Oh, and I do not recommend being an affiliate in mainstream. That is possibly the most difficult way to make money. The percentage is low, rules are strict and payouts are slllooowww. Just like with porn, you shoot your own porn the margins are higher and you can market it however the fuck you want. You attain your own merchandise you can almost do whatever the fuck you want. :D
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