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Old 01-11-2013, 11:18 AM  
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Originally Posted by tony286 View Post
actually everyone seems to forget the well formed militia part of the sentence.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ?"
Richard Henry Lee

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; ?"
Samuel Adams

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside ? Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

Tony, you need to read the Federalist Papers and quit harping on the left BULLSHIT that can't fucking understand them. Tony, you're smarter than that!

Or maybe you can't understand this "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls View Post
Do you think that civil rights are absolute?

1st Amendment rights are not absolute (illegal to slander someone etc, illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater, CP is illegal too). 2nd Amendment is not absolute either. Better believe that the majority of people in this country do not want felons being able to legally own firearms...US Citizen or not.
Anyone can go in a get a restraining against you and while waiting for the court date, your right to own a gun has been taken away, without seeing a judge, without even seeing a court house, someone can take away your constitutional rights!

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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
But don't you see the difference?

Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 people over a long period of time. The shooter in CT killed two dozen school kids in two or three minutes....
Guys with box cutters killed almost 3,000 people in one day, 9/11
Guy with a rental truck full of shit killed 168 people in one day
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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