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Old 01-11-2013, 01:53 PM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Since the beginning of time.
Until the end of time.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
so that means we should make it as easy as possible to do?
Pass all the laws you want, it will still be just as easy to get one. That is a fact. I live in a country that did exactly what all of you want to do, and it doesn't work. It never works. No matter what laws or regulations are dreamed up, I could enter the USA and get a firearm illegally within 12 hours or less.

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Originally Posted by tony286 View Post
Why have laws against robbery and rape and murder its going to happen anyway? Im not saying ban but regulate. A Frank Luntz poll sated 74% of NRA gun owners agree with.
I'd like to see no guns at all, but in reality regulation simply isn't going to work no matter how much we all want it to. It has never worked. Lets say they regulate the hell out of them, which I'm all for. Tony and BlackCrayon passes everything needed to get a gun, you're declared sane and responsible citizens and are permitted to own a firearm. Glory days. Me on the other hand, I'm unstable, have a past murder case that I did time for (not really), and am on drugs or part of some criminal element. I break into your house when you're at work or out to dinner and I steal your guns. Now none of that regulation matters. The guy who shouldn't have one does and the guys who should have them could not stop the crazy guy from getting them.

That is the reality of it. Regulate the hell out of them if you want, I support that if it helps people sleep better at night, but it's not going to change anything. People who want them will get them. Just like it's easy to get any drug imaginable even though there is a war on drugs and they are illegal. And as like do here, if they can't get guns, they will make their own. You simply can not legislate or regulate your way out of this problem.
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