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Originally Posted by GFED
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fact is what we are looking at here is control of legal guns.
if you looked at the link i previously posted you'd see that 99% of all those killings were done with firearms.
Same if you look at school massacres, in USA all were carried out using firearms, mostly AR's. (legally obtained and owned)
These guys are in love with the idea of being the big man with a gun, they are loners, no friends, lots of violent video games in their daily routine.
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Originally Posted by PornoMonster
Right, and it is the bandwagon of BS.
Jump on...
Let's not look at the real issues..
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real issue is that innocent children are getting murdered
which could have been prevented with proper gun control and mental screening.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
In a proper debate, people compare various sets of facts and statistics that further strengthens whichever side of the debate they're on.
Faux debates on the other hand, such as this one, are when people completely ignore the facts and focus purely on fantasy and speculation in order to make their argument seem valid.
So, it's up to you to decide how you'd like to carry on the debate. I choose to consider all the facts and statistics from related scenarios as opposed to blindly picking a side because the mainstream media is feeding me bullshit.
For example, not one of you has properly addressed the simple fact that automobiles lead to more than twice as many injuries and deaths than all firearm related incidents combined. But because automobile related incidents aren't force fed every day by the mainstream media, then you people don't really care. All you care about is latching on to whatever the 'hot topic' on the "news" is, and are are completely ignorant to any and everything else around you.
So it doesn't matter whether your false notions are based around all guns, handguns, assault rifles, shotguns, or whatever; the facts remain the same. But again, not one of you "anti gun" supporters seem to actually care about the facts; nor do you seem to care whether or not people die, or how many, so long as the death wasn't caused by a firearm. And this is quite simply, absolute nonsense.
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we are not discussing automobile deaths, rarely is an automobile used to mass murder 20+ innocent school children.
accidents happen and always will, thats part of life and we accept that.
allowing mentally deranged people to get their hands on automatic lethal rifles and going on mass murdering sprees is preventable. this is not acceptable.
if you cannot see the difference i fear this discussion is wasted.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
The truly sad part is how none of you "anti gun" advocates seem to realize that the sudden increase of mass shootings is just a little too convenient... like all of a sudden the mainstream media and political figureheads start talking about banning guns and then all of a sudden, mass shootings increase tenfold...
But no.. we mustn't talk about those things less the mainstream media and their faithful followers start calling us "conspiracy theorists".
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ok tin foil hat is being applied, i am out of here......