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Originally Posted by Rochard
I honestly doubt American citizens would ever have the need to rise up against it's government. Two hundred years later we are spoiled little bitches and have no idea how good we've got it.
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How good do we have it exactly? I'm pretty sure the US has more debt than any other country in the world... oh, you mean we have it good because the general public focus on the nonsense and have zero care about the real problems our country has if it means interrupting their tv shows and facebook time?
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Originally Posted by Rochard
What's happening in Syria is most interesting. The "rebels" have been very slowly gaining ground, but it's costing a lot - with the Syrian military, the rebel's losses, and the civilian population - and I'm wondering if they can pull it off. However, it's not fair to compare Syria to what could happen in the US. The US military is vastly different from Syria's.
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What's happening in Syria could very well happen in the US. The only major difference being that a lot of Americans will simply submit to the gov demands and then go back to stuffing their fat mouths, watching tv and posting on facebook.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
But when US citizens are armed and firing on the military, I am guessing the military would fire back.
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I can't imagine any scenario where it would really b the US military vs it's citizens. More like it'll be "private security" (mercenaries basically) vs the citizens and it's military. Sure, some branches might stay 'loyal' to the gov.. but I highly doubt the bulk would.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
Vietnam was a very different time and is most interesting to study from a historic point of view. I have a book called "The Thin Grey Line" which details the journey of a small group of people through West Point and then Vietnam - and the aftermath. The government failed to support the military, the public was against both the military and the government, and the military itself was at it's low point with lots of drug use and violence.
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If we should have learned anything from Vietnam, it's that the US government should stop putting it's noses in everyone else' business.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
As for the Taliban and Iraq, well, seems to me both the Taliban and Saddam were both QUICKLY removed from power. Saddam promised us the "mother of all battles" and what a let down that was. What's happening now in both Afghanistan and Iraq is failed country building, not a failure on the part of the US military.
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Saddam was anything but quickly removed from power. Dubya Jr's dad spent his entire campaign going after him, as did Dubya Jr spent most of his...
And I wouldn't exactly call Bin Ladins killing quick either... A solid 10 years for a cave dweller is quite the feat... 10 years for a cave dweller who just happened to be the only "terrorist group" who ever successfully attacked the US.
I mean, that is, if you believe the 'official' story and ignore all the facts.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
This seems to be part of the problem in Syria. The "rebels" are poorly armed and are fighting a military of tanks and jets. Originally the rebels didn't have anything other than small arms - assault rifles. Slowly they started getting anti aircraft weapons, and god only knows what else.
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Once again, I cannot foresee a scenario where it would be the US military in full force going up against the citizens, considering all of it's military are citizens themselves... And the politics behind it all are a far cry different than what's going on in Syria, so even trying to compare what's going on there to what would happen in the US is laughable at best.