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Old 01-14-2013, 01:04 PM  
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Originally Posted by jreg81 View Post
Unlikely scenario? First of all, it's unlikely BECAUSE of the 2nd amendment. THAT is why our forefathers put it in. To make sure that it remains an unlikely scenario. Read up on history throughout the world. The first thing all of the oppressive and tyrannical governments did was disarm the general population. That's a fact.

Also, just because Americans has lived in a relatively peaceful, stable society, without major civil unrest towards our Gov't does not mean it can never happen. Look around the World man, it's constantly "on fire". It happens a lot.

We're just so conditioned and desensitive to it because we see it all as "3rd world problems", that could never possibly occur here in our safe, democratic, US of A, from our freedom-loving and citizen-loving elected Government.

Americans are fairly ignorant in this regard; we don't realize just how fragile freedom and "civilization" really are. It doesn't take much to throw everything off it's axis.

We've seen it play out on smaller scales (LA Riots, Katrina in New Orleans, etc). Just imagine it on a massive scale, for whatever reason. Do you want the only ones with guns to be criminals and the government? Sorry, I do not. The common, law-abiding man has an inalienable right to protect himself, his family and his country.

About "more and more" people dying. Do your homework and stop believing everything you hear on so-called news agencies like MSNBC. Tougher guns laws have NEVER equaled less violence or death. NEVER. People are always going to kill other people. No matter what. It's in our nature unfortunately. Cars, drugs and hammers all each kill more people a year than guns in this country. It's a fact.

The entire argument for taking away law-abiding citizens' guns is based on EMOTIONAL reactions to specific tragic instances (where the "gun" was not the reason for the deaths), whereas upholding the 2nd Amendment is based on rock-solid principles and facts.

I have a brand new AR sitting downstairs underneath my bed. It's been there about 3 weeks now and hasn't killed anyone. Maybe it's dysfunctional and I should take it back for a refund, no?
i only think there needs to be more restrictions and more education required to own a gun. i don't want to 'ban' guns. although i do think it should not be legal to just leave a gun sitting 'under a bed'. laws should be in place so that firearms are locked up unless on your person. its just an accident waiting to happen or a perfect opportunity for the gun to be stolen or used by someone other than yourself.

i am also tired of the stupid argument that people kill people, not guns. duh, obviously. people are responsible for everything. inanimate objects can't do anything on their own. this is nothing more than a deflection, and a very uneducated one at that but it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be laws in place to keep certain people away from these inanimate objects.

as for the government becoming 'tyrannical', it would happen so slowly that you wouldn't even notice until its too late. its not like one day you're going to wake up and have to take up arms. this is real life, not the movies. the la riots and katrina have nothing to do with standing up to a tyrannical government. these are just criminals taking advantage of a situation.

also, as i have mentioned before every 'law abiding' citizen is capable of using their legal weapon for criminal acts. the entire argument for keeping things status quo with the gun laws is emotional as well. people think something is being taken from them, this causes fear, which is an emotion. please tell me how the second admendment was built on 'rock solid' principals and facts? that just seems like you put 'rock solid' in there for no reason other than in hopes of no one questioning it. i'd also like to know if you would say this to someone who lost a loved one to a mass shooting incident, sorry but we need are semi autos to keep us safe from possible future government tyranny.
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