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Originally Posted by jreg81
Well Tom, in a perfect world, there'd be zero guns and than I'm sure no human being would ever think to kill another human being for any reason.
Mcviegh killed hundreds in 2 seconds with a Ryder Truck full of shit in OKC.
Sand-bunnies with box-cutters killed 1000's in minutes on 9/11 inside 747s.
Humans gonna' kill.
But the FACT is, in places with so-called stricter gun-control "laws", where it's more difficult and restrictive for NORMAL, law-abiding citizens to have guns, the violent crime and murder rates are HIGHER. (i.e. - chicago, NYC and others)
But in the places where it's easier for law-abiding citizens to obtain and maintain guns, those rates are lower. FACT.
And all of these mass-shootings, etw, these people are NOT law-abiding people; they are people who had CLEAR mental problems in their histories, made prior threats and 95% of the time obtained their weapons ILLEGALLY!
So how does making it harder or impossible for normal citizens to have firearms help stop the "bad guys" from having them? It doesn't. Bad guys don't follow the law, now do they?
I don't want to live in a country where only bad guys have guns, or only bad guys and the government have them. The result would mean the common man is at the mercy of criminals and government, with no checks in place. Sorry, I just refuse to be a sheep in the pasture just waiting to be fleeced. And many other law-biding Americans feel the exact same way.
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FACT state laws are useless when you can get a gun in another state so easily. its not like they are frisking people at state boarders.
FACT most guns used in mass shootings were legal guns that were used illegally. lanza's mother legally owned the gun. holmes legally purchased the guns. the columbine kids had others legally purchase their guns.. and it goes on.
humans are going to kill but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to make it harder for them to do so. why not just wipe all laws off the books because they obviously aren't stopping crimes. now doesn't that sound silly? its the same logic.