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Originally Posted by adulttraffic
All these new laws obama is planning to pass is simply for him to look good in the public eyes. As stated above their is already millions of high capacity magazines in circulation with guns that use them. These laws will do nothing to stop people from using them to kill people..... that boat sailed in 1984
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Gotta start somewhere.
To answer the OPs original question: If "liberty" requires the meaningless deaths of innocent school children, mall shoppers, etc. on a daily basis (919 firearm related deaths since the Newtown massacre) then what real value can you ascribe to it? For the majority of the people arguing against ALL firearm regulation, it's about preserving their right to plink fucking tin cans and shoot paper targets on the weekend at the expense of other citizen's lives. They are not going to have to defend their property from "Road Warrior" type gangs anytime soon. Nor are they going to stage an armed insurrection against the tyrannical government of that Kenyan born Muslim Nazi Communist Obama dat gonna take all der freedums. Is Obama full of shit? Yes. But he is not a Kenyan born Muslim Nazi Communist trying to usher in a New World Order.
Anyway, fuck some idealogue's puratanical belief in platonic "liberty", I value the health of the nation. I, myself, value the idea of a society in which we pursue policies and purposes that are to the health and benefit of every citizen. The point of nationhood is not merely to provide liberty to the lives of its citizens, but also to create a viable, functional state in which the welfare of all is considered and addressed. If some asshole's idea of personal liberty requires constant death, pain, and brutalization of those less fortunate; and that asshole is unwilling to exchange even a modicum of personal independence to benefit the nation as a whole... well, then I would say I no longer have much use for the term liberty. Of course, I'm full of shit - I have tons of beliefs and convictions and I live by none of them.