Originally Posted by brandonstills

Everyone must find means to live and eat?that's reality and there is no avoiding it. As far as the people with capital, they worked hard and lived frugally to acquire it. The poor person has the ability to do this as well. The capitalist just started the process earlier or more strictly followed it. I'm with you on those who stole the money like the bankers and crony capitalists though.


You are focusing on "balance" and re-distribution instead of creating wealth. Socialist agenda is about making the poor person richer, by making a rich person poorer. Leave the rich person alone and focus on how you can help the poor person can create THEIR OWN wealth. The world won't grow in prosperity by fighting over it. It needs to cooperate and build new wealth. Wealth is created from the application of labor, capital, and technology. I would encourage you to find ways to create wealth instead of take from others who you feel have "no right" to what they earned.

You can't bring the poor out of prosperity by punishing the rich. Slicing the pie into more pieces doesn't result in more wealth. Potential wealth is infinite.

There are universal laws of cause and effect. The most effective way to bring people out of poverty is to discover those principles and follow them.

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime". Plus you aren't robbing someone else of fish that they worked hard for and justly deserve to keep.


What is your supporting argument for this proposition? Society has been able to breed for countless ages without minimum wage. Surely, minimum wage is not a requirement for breeding.


This doesn't follow. We are talking about minimum wage, not slavery. A slave is someone who is forced to work for another's benefit without their consent. Any person who has a job is there by their own volition.

Slaves were beaten, starved, raped, and didn't have any freedom. I don't see how offering someone a job for less than minimum wage is worst than that. They can always refused and even if they accept, they still aren't beaten, starved, etc, and they still have freedom to leave and find something better.


Why? What's your definition of civilized?

My definition of civilized is a society in which people are free to do what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else. Offering someone a job, no matter what the salary is, doesn't count as harm in my book.