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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Really Che Guevara?
What did you most admire, his hatred of blacks, His brutality towards gays and musicians with long hair, or his murder and theft from families who's only crime was starting a small business? Perhaps it was his on-the-spot executions of small farmers that refused to give up their land to the revolutionaries?
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
I can see what you admire in him.... There is just so much to love!!
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He was the ultimate revolutionary - I hadn't read these things about him. I will read more, and decide for myself what's likely to be true and consider the context of the times and who the sources are. The hatred of America is totally understandable, being anti-gay if true in the 1950's, no surprise there, the anti-long hair musician thing sounds odd since he had long hair and a scruffy beard himself.
To call him gutless is ridiculous though, from what I've read he was a brilliant guerilla strategist and fighter.
Cuba was a just revolution, it was what the people wanted. When Kennedy sent the CIA to recruit Cubans to lay the groundwork for the Bay of Pigs invasion guess what happened - Howard Hunt said he couldn't find anybody, everybody he talked to was happy with Castro. In any violent revolution atrocities and purges happen. I'm not condoning any of that.
The lesson to be learned is colonialism/imperialism is wrong and revolution is inevitable.
I'm not pro dictatorships and communism, but when the people of a country i.e. Cuba, Vietnam choose them over what they had before - that should tell you something. You're a right wing zealot pretty much. What was the US offering the people of Cuba as an alternative to Castro/Guevara? Batista.
I understand and would feel the same way as Dead Fidel does - his family paid the worst price. It wouldn't have happened if not for this:
?I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear. ?
? U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963
You reap what you sow. And the lesson never seems to get learned.