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  • hellboy78
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2013
    • 645

    #31
    well the word "chargeback" is normally used for this type of process,

    I phoned to americanexpress and I explained my problem, they told me: call the company, or call paypal, why did you call us?
    I explained the problem, the agreement, but nothing,.......
    then I said: "I'm requesting the "chargeback", and they understood all into half second.

    So, into paypal you can read that there is a chargeback procedure, that users can ask to their credit card company, not to paypal.

    call back your credit card and say "chargeback", give to them the agreement you made with Samuel.
    if they don't want to do the "chargeback" , say to them that you have to call your lawyer, and they will help you into seconds
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    • hellboy78
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2013
      • 645

      #32
      dear "marc337" , I will have a final answer from american express on Monday.

      by the way, contact me with ICQ,

      I want to take a lawyer into India, we can call the lawyer togheter, me and you, and have all our money back.

      I'm waiting for your contact.
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      • hellboy78
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2013
        • 645

        #33
        this is the guy

        free image hosting

        into a video, showing to everyone how he spent last 6 years
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpjyLELvqlE

        he will need that in JAIL
        Last edited by hellboy78; 03-15-2013, 03:07 PM.
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        • marc337
          Registered User
          • Feb 2013
          • 4

          #34
          So, that's Sam Strauss huh? Figures, I told him KARMA is going to ruin his life if he didn't return all the money he's ripped off from his phony 100% money back guarantee. Pathetic human being really...

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          • hellboy78
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2013
            • 645

            #35
            I spoke with Ashish on yahoo messanger,
            he laughed at me about the money back garantee,
            and he told me that the agreement is into is site: webcyonix.com
            but I have bought the service from adultseosolution.com
            so, in his personal view, I don't have any rights to ask money back.

            well, he forgot one detail, I asked to him to write the agreement with 100% refund policy into first paypal invoice. and he wrote that.....
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            • AllAboutCams
              Femcams.com
              • Jul 2011
              • 12234

              #36
              You sent $2300 to an Indian without prior work?
              Did the site rank at all?
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              • hellboy78
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2013
                • 645

                #37
                I have a team of 4 Indian programmers, they are very good workers, good people and good friends. I don't make deals or agreements thinking about country origin.

                So, he showed me some of his previous jobs.
                we made the agreement with refund policy of 100% money back
                and
                I sent 385 usd him monthly, for 6 months.

                I can tell you that he has done only backlinks,
                zero rank improvement, and I serious think that he has done pure SPAM.
                no relevant articles, he made articles about school lessons...while my site is for "interracial sex".

                so, zero improvement of my site, of any type.....
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                • fastwebcash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 78

                  #38
                  I see similar thread in section "The Shit List" in one other forum. Is this same service/owner or just coincidence.

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                  • hellboy78
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 645

                    #39
                    American Express done the chargeback today, for all 6 months payed.
                    basically, the standard chargeback can be asked into 120 days,
                    but there a longer chargeback for older transactions....

                    so, I have a credit of 2.310 usd on my card now, and paypal is going to ask all money back to Ashish, or ask to Ashish if he want to dispute the chargeback and our agreement.
                    in anyway, he has to give good reasons to dispute this chargeback.
                    I have a detailed report about my site that is not into google first page for porn keywords, it will be very funny to explain to paypal that Ashish accepts payment for porn services.

                    so, for now I can say: American Express, never go out without it !!!

                    I will update you with final resolution.
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                    • zorag
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 50

                      #40
                      Well done hellboy .. glad you got things on track now, and thanks for the great info/updates - awesome!!

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                      • hellboy78
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 645

                        #41
                        ok

                        chargeback done by american express.

                        now I can see the chargeback inside paypal too,
                        we are waiting for an answer from Ashish...I think he cannot dispute his own agreement

                        I will update you
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                        • adultforum
                          SEO SPECIALIST
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2438

                          #42
                          Originally posted by zorag
                          Well done hellboy .. glad you got things on track now, and thanks for the great info/updates - awesome!!

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                          • Charger1000
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 6

                            #43
                            WOW guys

                            What an asshole. I hope both of you will get your money back.

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                            • hellboy78
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 645

                              #44
                              money back

                              chargeback succefull

                              thanks to american express.

                              I will write a guide how to make an international deal and be sure to have a chargeback after more that regular 120 days.

                              thanks everyone
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