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Old 04-06-2013, 08:43 PM  
GrantMercury
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GrantMercury...FREEDOM is not censoring corporations (which yes...are just people, the CEO's of corporations are not magical, they are just people).
A CEO is a person. A corporation is not. A corporation is a legal construct - not a person. Corporations can't go to jail. They can't get the death penalty. They don't get cancer. They don't have kids.

The great Bernie Sanders (I - VT) lays it out.


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...if I want to hire a lobbyist to petition my local, state, or federal govt. on behalf of laws or regulations that would benefit me then I should be FREE to do so.
But wouldn't that mean those rich enough to hire a lobbyist would have more influence in Washington? You're in luck - that's what we have.


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The problem is when the POLITICIANS refuse to play ball unless you grease their palms.
And those who do the greasing are THRILLED to do it. The returns on that investment are extraordinary. They love the system.

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The evil corporations are just people running companies trying to survive and make money.
Yeah, the Koch Brothers are just scraping by. The government is forcing them to dump $200 million into our elections. http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...2-election.php

Sheldon Adelson, too, is being extorted.
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?He?s fully committed to beating Barack Obama,? said Fred S. Zeidman, a Texas energy executive and a friend of Mr. Adelson?s. ?We think ?$100 million, wow!? But it?s a meaningless amount of money to him.?

The unusually heavy flow of money has drawn concern not just from liberals and government watchdog groups, but even from some Republicans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/us...oups.html?_r=0

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Your whole attitude seems to be that of a sheep who loves govt and blindly follows along.
My whole attitude is that we need to keep thinking, asking questions, and working toward a better society. Government can do good or bad. Corporations can do good or bad. What's bad is that our current political system is swollen with cash. Or freedom.

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Hell, you've already completely derailed this thread...
I think you derailed it.

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