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Old 04-08-2013, 02:07 PM  
Supz
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Originally Posted by ilnjscb View Post
Yes, I am, very familiar. Let's look at Office 365 - a "next release" of office. Since you don't value my perspective or my "nonsense", let's go to a third party:

"Computerworld April 2, 2013 03:55 PM ET - Office 365 has accounted for about 25% of all Office retail unit sales in the U.S. since its introduction two months ago, but the new "rent-not-own" strategy has not boosted overall sales, an analyst said today.

Stephen Baker of the NPD Group, a research firm that regularly surveys U.S. retailers for software sales figures, noted that the split between Office 2013 and Office 365 is running about 3:1 so far, in the former's favor.

"Office 365 has accounted for about 25% of the [unit] volume," said Baker today. "Office 2013 has had about three-fourths of the retail business."

"At first blush, those numbers sound reasonably good," said Wes Miller, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft. "But it's kind of like Surface numbers."


I know, this guy is just spouting nonsense too, right? I mean, who cares abut sales? and calling a 10 year late move to SAS innovation, now that makes sense.

Your sharepoint example illustrates my point. Sharepoint, Lync, Yammer, and Skype are all products that resulted from MS realizing its own weakness by watching the market. They couldn't buy Notes so they got Ray Ozzie. The other 3 they purchased.

All those packages you mention together don't bring in 10% of MS revenue, and they never will.

Business doesn't adopt MS to get Sharepoint, they adopt Sharepoint because they have MS in house, and because vendors like you push it on them. Sharepoint doesn't create new clients, it raises revenue slightly or replaces lost revenue. Dynamics CRM on the other hand, people actually seek out.

My point, again: 5 years, 10 years, 20 years. If they don't change the culture, they will not own the business market any more.
The produc has been out for about a year. It already has 25%.. It costs less for 1 year of cloud bases then it does to buy a license. Hence the sales numbers. As the time goes by the people renting will pay more then the people buying. This is how rent works.

I am sorry to tell you. There is nothing that is going to replace active directry, windows server, office and exchange. That was my initial point. If you think different, youre lost. Do you think all the people who develop apps for business based on windows server are going to start from scratch for some new OS? And this is how they own the business market. Now with there apps for SaaS.
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