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Originally Posted by lazycash
When a cam program offers $200-$300 per sale and they realize that they are losing money...
Had you been promoting a program with the standard pps cam payout of $50-75, I would venture to say they would have had zero issues with your referrals.
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at the very minimum you should at least be paid out money owed.
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Agree;
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Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Your method of promotion on their end most likely looked like this :
1:3 unique to signup ratio
1:1 free to paid conversion ratio
They probably also spent the minimum amount as they were waiting for your model's show to start. I understand there were complications, but from a sponsor's point of view, that's a typical card banging profile.
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Agree;
This to a fraud dept looks like a (filipino) "chat traffic" or "direct sales", which is: close friends of affiliate (no any random web surfers) are sent to deposit $20 (or min signup) once, via emails or chat talk, in exchange of something (money, yahoo/skype shows) or just "help" as they're friends.
If this was instead guys who waited a model to show, who was not yet registered or showing, after 2 weeks this is impossible to determine for a fraud dept - except if they email the customers asking why they made the sale, one by one (but who knows if they reply), plus question the affiliate itself.
Our cam program give "just" $80 PPS, but be sure even $80 it is not sustainable with this type of chat / direct / friends traffic! So imagine $200 PPS, it's a plain 95% net loss, growing quick, to be stopped ASAP.
I tried to let those type of affiliates run a few weeks, up to paying $3k (40 signups $80pps) to one, but concluded 99% of these signups is once, even after a year from signup, and so just a waste. So wrote in TOS and even in register page: we do not accept chat traffic, contact us in advance if do direct sales methods. So I can understand imlive (or anyone else's) wish to stop this sales patterns as soon as found, this is legit, as long as announced properly.
What to do when this schema is found? It would be best, in my opinion, and we do ourselves this:
1) try to email, chat with affiliate, to see what he has to say; Eventually email users too.
2) if the cards seems not banged and not likely to chargeback (as this case seems to be), pay in full what was signed up before you talked affiliate on 1), and invite him to stop sending traffic, warning no any "next" signup will be paid. So there's really nothing "unpaid" on surprise.
A variant we do with someone, in case we see "some" extra sales are happening, it is: 2b) we offer $40 instead of $80 for next signups. It will be the affiliate to decide if stop send traffic or continue but at lower payout. But we pay the signups made until we contacted the affiliate about the issue... of course except if the issue is banging cards, chargeback likely.. in that case we refund all sales and pay no one (if not refund sales, each chargeback got later, eats $25 in addition to the amount refunded....).