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Old 05-13-2013, 05:33 PM  
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Yeah, the subject of the shady behind closed doors illegal deals that politicians do every day with the highest bidder. We have no way of knowing what is going on. We only see the results.
illegal deals are illegal deals.. the fact that these 'deals' continue taking place, without any oversight, should tell us a great deal.

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And your perspective is that it's "Big Business" who is at fault.
Mine is that it's the Govt. with all the power and they sell their power to the highest bidder.
and that highest bidder is big business, so really we are agreeing, yes?

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In the end, we all get fucked...I'm just surprised at how successful the govt. has gotten at manipulating the population.
Back in the 1960's/early 1970's people protested against our govt. Now...nothing. Hell, the media (who are supposed to be the watchdogs of govt.) haven't even shown any inclination to do what was once referred to as "investigative journalism".
they do today. we call them lazy entitled fucks who should be concerning themselves with working (unless they're students, and the reasons for their not protesting get really muddled) we attack them with riot police, tear gas, illegal detention, political pressure (IRS)

looking at the beehive colony collapse, is another 'clue' on who holds power here

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These days they just go to the press room, get a copy of the official White House statements...and report it as fact.
like angry muslim protests? look what happens, today, if one were to ask questions about that?

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Instead of "embedding" with the troops in Iraq and scrambling to be the biggest ass kisser to the White House so they could get the "good" assigned "embeddment"...they should have been investigating the Bush admin's claims that there were "Weapons Of Mass Destruction".
yea, im sure the military would have loved that. my understanding is they were intercepting and 'detaining for their safety' anyone from the US travelling there to 'document'.. only way to, realistically, be a reporter there, is to embed

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After that embarrassment, I would think they would have straightened up. But no...they continue to NOT do their job with the Obama administration.
comes down to who owns the media companies, and how those are connected to who owns the universities


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The govt. seems to have it all wrapped up from my point of view.
yea, almost everyones point of view. Funny how the bad guy is 'big government', yet we just invade countries that make big business money

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Nobody is questioning them or holding them accountable. The media doesn't. And the people argue amongst themselves (like we are doing).
Us arguing amongst ourselves is the biggest steps we can take, as a species, towards fixing the problems of today and creating the problems of tomorrow. In the day of the internet, ignorance is no longer a viable excuse.

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Textbook example of misdirection. Penn & Teller couldn't do it any better.
I agree, but i think it comes down to the 'pyramid'. That structure has been alive and well for some time. Considering who owns banks etc, it's not a far (or crazy), assumption that the first 'powerhouse'.. still has power.
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